[MickeyC]

Hi I'm new to the forum and I'm going to look at a new 2023 4motion Taos this week. As the car would spend most of its life in the City I'm concerned about the Turbo lag issues that affect the 2022 cars. The question is has this problem been fixed on the 2023 model year cars ?

 

[Jwages]

If you buy a 4motion you will get a choice of driving modes. You can also create your own mode using the custom mode feature. I have a 2022 and have not experienced lag in normal mode.
Look at Mac Volkswagen channel on youtube. They have some very good videos on 4 motion.

 

[TaosBC]

Calling it "turbo lag" is actually the wrong term. It's not the turbo, it's the programming of the throttle tip-in, and it's something that can be fixed easily with a revised throttle mapping. I believe VW started using a different throttle map in Nov 2021 production. Cars earlier than that have likely had software updates automatically when the dealer sees them for annual service. And as Jwages said, there are a choice of drive modes available. Hope this helps.

 

[miamidad]

we have a 23 4motion and notice a harsh 1st and 2nd gear; both up and down.

 

[mc.alphazen]

I have noticed that the Eco mode is the most comfortable drive. The shifting is very smooth and never thumps. Last week I was driving on normal mode and I experienced one hard thump shifting up to 2nd gear.

 

[sapgar]

I have a 2023. I noticed more lag and surging on my DSG-turbo combo when new. I'm not sure if the break-in has a software learning thing, or my right foot does, but the car accelerates pretty smoothly for me now. The one adaptation I do, though is to think of the timing of how I'd let the clutch out on a manual when starting off the line with the DSG with some anticipation, since it is really an automated manual transmission.

 

[Sam2022]

I have a 2023. I noticed more lag and surging on my DSG-turbo combo when new. I'm not sure if the break-in has a software learning thing, or my right foot does, but the car accelerates pretty smoothly for me now. The one adaptation I do, though is to think of the timing of how I'd let the clutch out on a manual when starting off the line with the DSG with some anticipation, since it is really an automated manual transmission.

Lol, I was wondering the same thing too! Maybe it is a bit of both where the car learns how we drive, and we learn how to drive the DSG.

 

[Tiffytiff]

Lol, I was wondering the same thing too! Maybe it is a bit of both where the car learns how we drive, and we learn how to drive the DSG.

This! Contrary to what many say, driving a 7 speed DSG is definitely not the same as driving a regular automatic. I'm still getting used to it.

 

[JET_83]

Hi I'm new to the forum and I'm going to look at a new 2023 4motion Taos this week. As the car would spend most of its life in the City I'm concerned about the Turbo lag issues that affect the 2022 cars. The question is has this problem been fixed on the 2023 model year cars ?

The issue lies in the DSG not the “turbo lag”, unfortunately that tranny is clunky, way inferior to the automatic 8-speed, truly a shame you can’t pick your transmission if you go AWD.

 

[MickeyC]

The issue lies in the DSG not the “turbo lag”, unfortunately that tranny is clunky, way inferior to the automatic 8-speed, truly a shame you can’t pick your transmission if you go AWD.

Picked the car up two weeks ago and the DSG works just fine.

 

[JET_83]

Picked the car up two weeks ago and the DSG works just fine.

It’s not near as smooth as the traditional 8 speed

 

[TaosBC]

It’s not near as smooth as the traditional 8 speed

Automatic transmissions are very smooth. The DSG is essentially a manual transmission that shifts without a clutch pedal, so it can be less smooth, but has other benefits.

 

[MickeyC]

It’s not near as smooth as the traditional 8 speed

I have a mk7 GTI with DSG and it's no different from that. I was put of by what people were saying about early DSG Taos but when I test drove a 2023 car it was great.

 

[JET_83]

I have a mk7 GTI with DSG and it's no different from that. I was put of by what people were saying about early DSG Taos but when I test drove a 2023 car it was great.

I just test drove one days ago before I chose the 8 speed and the DSG was inferior in my experience, others have said the same on here.

 

[JET_83]

I just test drove one days ago before I chose the 8 speed and the DSG was inferior in my experience, others have said the same on here.

8 speed will always be smoother than the DSG

 

[Tiffytiff]

Automatic transmissions are very smooth. The DSG is essentially a manual transmission that shifts without a clutch pedal, so it can be less smooth, but has other benefits.

What are the benefits? I’m still trying to get used to the DSG and weighing the pros and cons of trading it in sooner than I’d like if I find that I can’t adjust to the feel of it. So far, I would describe the transmission as “rugged.”

 

[JET_83]

What are the benefits? I’m still trying to get used to the DSG and weighing the pros and cons of trading it in sooner than I’d like if I find that I can’t adjust to the feel of it. So far, I would describe the transmission “rugged.”

I’d like to know the benefits of the DSG too, lol

 

[TaosBC]

What are the benefits? I’m still trying to get used to the DSG and weighing the pros and cons of trading it in sooner than I’d like if I find that I can’t adjust to the feel of it. So far, I would describe the transmission “rugged.”

Here's a good explanation (although it refers to the Ford versions, it gives a good overview of the pros and cons)... https://www.cjponyparts.com/resourc...MIiL-e5pTP_QIVoxnnCh38SwX6EAAYAiAAEgKn_fD_BwE

Here's an excerpt...

"The benefits of DCTs speak for themselves. Faster shifting, less loss of power, and more fuel efficiency.​

The negatives are that there’s a bit of a learning curve to using them, they tend to have a little more jerkiness than the average driver is comfortable with, and they have a driving sensation that feels a lot like “turbo lag".”​

There's a reason why Porsches and other performance makes have dual clutch transmissions. In fact, I also have a Porsche Macan with the same transmission as the VW DSG, tuned slightly differently and rebranded as PDK. Audi uses the same one on all their cars as well. VW felt that most purchasers of the Taos would prefer the DSG to the full automatic. I agree. That said, as "slushboxes" go, the 8-speed automatic is a pretty good one.

 

[JET_83]

Here's a good explanation (although it refers to the Ford versions, it gives a good overview of the pros and cons)... https://www.cjponyparts.com/resourc...MIiL-e5pTP_QIVoxnnCh38SwX6EAAYAiAAEgKn_fD_BwE

Here's an excerpt...

"The benefits of DCTs speak for themselves. Faster shifting, less loss of power, and more fuel efficiency.​

The negatives are that there’s a bit of a learning curve to using them, they tend to have a little more jerkiness than the average driver is comfortable with, and they have a driving sensation that feels a lot like “turbo lag".”​

There's a reason why Porsches and other performance makes have dual clutch transmissions. In fact, I also have a Porsche Macan with the same transmission as the VW DSG, tuned slightly differently and rebranded as PDK. Audi uses the same one on all their cars as well. VW felt that most purchasers of the Taos would prefer the DSG to the full automatic. I agree. That said, as "slushboxes" go, the 8-speed automatic is a pretty good one.

The DSG is less fuel efficient than the 8 speed

 

[Tiffytiff]

Here's a good explanation (although it refers to the Ford versions, it gives a good overview of the pros and cons)... https://www.cjponyparts.com/resourc...MIiL-e5pTP_QIVoxnnCh38SwX6EAAYAiAAEgKn_fD_BwE

Here's an excerpt...

"The benefits of DCTs speak for themselves. Faster shifting, less loss of power, and more fuel efficiency.​

The negatives are that there’s a bit of a learning curve to using them, they tend to have a little more jerkiness than the average driver is comfortable with, and they have a driving sensation that feels a lot like “turbo lag".”​

There's a reason why Porsches and other performance makes have dual clutch transmissions. In fact, I also have a Porsche Macan with the same transmission as the VW DSG, tuned slightly differently and rebranded as PDK. Audi uses the same one on all their cars as well. VW felt that most purchasers of the Taos would prefer the DSG to the full automatic. I agree. That said, as "slushboxes" go, the 8-speed automatic is a pretty good one.

This is helpful. Thanks!