Does the 4motion 7 speed DSG have serious turbo lag?
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This site has a lot of comments on the subject of turbo lag and DSG. Many suggest the driver just needs to get used to the vehicle. I have no issues with acceleration. If I accelerate too hard from a stop making a left turn the tires chirp, even with 4motion and snow tires, and I remind myself to ease up a little. Once moving, I have no issues accelerating from an on-ramp and quickly crossing a few lanes to and above highway speed. No issues with passing - I do tend to drop gear selector to sport for passing on a 2-lane road. Did similar with a previous BMW 5 by dropping down a gear. The acceleration was a bit of concern last summer before the update was made.
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I notice it on the 7 speed. My work around is going into manual mode and shifting. I ordered a steering wheel with paddle shifters to make it easier
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I took the AWD Taos out for a drive Friday to do some minor chores and I realized something about the car. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the DSG tranny in these cars. It does not need reprogramming or updating. Now mine was built in July of 21 so maybe by then they got all the kinks...
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If you want to mash it, drive in S.
That said, I don’t know why VW insists on DSG in this car and the Alltrack. Is there an off road benefit? Their 8 speed auto is a great transmission that shifts quickly and suits lower power vehicles well.
That said, I don’t know why VW insists on DSG in this car and the Alltrack. Is there an off road benefit? Their 8 speed auto is a great transmission that shifts quickly and suits lower power vehicles well.
The only car I've driven/owned under the VW Group with dual clutch is the Porsche Macan with the PDK, one being a 4 cylinder (2018 Base) and S (2020 with the 3.0 V6). The Base tended to have the "sudden take off" feel when mashing the padel, not sure if it's something similar to the VW DSG gearbox. The 3.0, however, didn't have that but it did feel much heavier and less responsive when accelerating from a stop (unless Sport or Sport+ was activated).
Guess will head down to one of the local dealers and try out the DSG...
Guess will head down to one of the local dealers and try out the DSG...
DSG are much more fuel efficient than automatics because theres no fluid pumping or fluid interface losses. I find it funny that most want to describe the phenomenon as turbo lag when its actually power being very quickly delivered and engaged. If you drive it with more acceleration, it will smooth out but it will always feel like some kind of launch.
it is exactly like revving the engine and dumping the clutch to launch a manual sports car,
it is exactly like revving the engine and dumping the clutch to launch a manual sports car,
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That’s fine. But the Jetta Auto gets 29/39 with an 8 speed, so again, with the small, very efficient 1.4/1.5l the DSG and 8speed aren’t going to show much of a difference in MPG, performance, etc so why bother with the cost and complaints? It makes sense for the GTI, Golf R, GLI, but why the non-performance cars?
you can't compare different engines, body shapes and car weights. DSG are much more efficient than autos. its an easy fact. just like when cars used to come with manuals, they were always several mpg higher on city and hwy.
personal choice of which you like. autos are more complex than DSGs
personal choice of which you like. autos are more complex than DSGs
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In normal mode there is a bit of turbo lag followed by a rush of boost. Took me a bit to finely tune my foot. But I read that putting the drive mode into Eco helps immensely. I tried it and it’s really smooth in Eco.
I’ve mentioned this before on this forum but that’s exactly what I love about the Dsg. My previous car was a wrx manual & enjoy the taos much more!
Now that I live in NC and it's been hot, I can confirm the "turbo lag" does exist with the 8 speed. With the AC it's especially noticeable. It's reduced a bit by using sport mode but in drive mode if you nail the throttle from a stop there is a noticeable delay and then it comes on all at once. With the AC off it's much less apparent.
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I think, over time, a lot of education is coming forward about the AWD Taos....most in valid defense of the DSG. It is absolutely the factory's studied performance option and when sorted out and in the hands of a practiced driver it will outperform the FWD 8 speed, thanks to faster upshifts and the sophisticated "gen six" Borg Warner torque sensing AWD. Four wheels digging dynamically creates more grip than just the front two, specially when accelerating and turning at the same time.
That said, I've found that the Carista Direct Threshold throttle setting creates better harmony than the factory "Gradual, Time Based" throttle setting. It could be a development mistake at VAG to ask a computer buffered throttle signal to interact with the mechatronic DSG controller. Asking two computers to decide between them what the driver wants to do next? What could possibly go wrong, LOL. I can give VW a mulligan at the outset for getting the synchronization between a very innovative new engine and their tried and true dual clutch sport box just right. Owner complaints on the score of delayed drive line responses and "jerky" operation are not imaginary but they are also not automatically bad manufacturing or a major defect in the Taos design.
That said, I've found that the Carista Direct Threshold throttle setting creates better harmony than the factory "Gradual, Time Based" throttle setting. It could be a development mistake at VAG to ask a computer buffered throttle signal to interact with the mechatronic DSG controller. Asking two computers to decide between them what the driver wants to do next? What could possibly go wrong, LOL. I can give VW a mulligan at the outset for getting the synchronization between a very innovative new engine and their tried and true dual clutch sport box just right. Owner complaints on the score of delayed drive line responses and "jerky" operation are not imaginary but they are also not automatically bad manufacturing or a major defect in the Taos design.
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