[tbean]

Hi all, got a new White SE 4Motion recently and overall love it; but am probably getting the Carista...

For those of you who got it and changed to {direct, controlled by threshold} -- have a few questions:

1. Does the change apply to all the drive modes (i.e., Eco, Drive, Sports, Snow, etc.)? If so, does each mode still drive / accelerate differently from one another?
2. Have you ever reverted back to {gradual, controlled by time} for some reason? If so, does it feel just like before / factory-default?​

Thank you very much in advance!

 

[Jake Barnett]

1. Yes, it applies to all drive modes.
2. No, never went back. The direct method feels much more linear and it stopped the weird inconsistencies with throttle response.

 

[OmegaWave]

I made the change on mine many months ago, and you couldn't pay me to change it back. For me the difference between the two settings is night and day! Is it perfect now? NO, but I do feel it is much easier to drive more smoothly from a stop than before. It did take probably a week to retrain my brain/foot to the new setting because the way the car responds is different.

 

[tbean]

Thanks guys! Yeah I had to adapt to it past month+ and tried different modes. Nothing really worked the way I like and surprisingly I have been sticking to "Eco" mainly (the other modes often seem to not want to shift up after gaining speed, funny enough).

Will give it a try!

 

[jamesz]

Following up on your conversation - my carista doesn't read throttle response. There isn't an option for throttle after the scan. Does any of you know what happened there?

 

[Jake Barnett]

Following up on your conversation - my carista doesn't read throttle response. There isn't an option for throttle after the scan. Does any of you know what happened there?

Make sure you pop the hood and have the accesories on but the engine off.

 

[k.aoi]

I actually ended up changing it back, I feel like it helps build boost better without using more throttle- which causes the TC to unlock on the 8 speed. On the DSG that isn't an issue but the engine has so much torque that unlocking the TC is counterintuitive. I also drive in sport mode 100% of the time which helps the TC lock up faster and stay locked more often. With direct it required more throttle application and that would result in unwanted TC unlock.

 

[k.aoi]

Following up on your conversation - my carista doesn't read throttle response. There isn't an option for throttle after the scan. Does any of you know what happened there?

pop the hood. Some settings don't show up if the hood is fully closed.

 

[Jake Barnett]

I actually ended up changing it back, I feel like it helps build boost better without using more throttle- which causes the TC to unlock on the 8 speed. On the DSG that isn't an issue but the engine has so much torque that unlocking the TC is counterintuitive. I also drive in sport mode 100% of the time which helps the TC lock up faster and stay locked more often. With direct it required more throttle application and that would result in unwanted TC unlock.

I had almost the opposite experience with the DSG. With the factory setting there is an unwanted pause when you press the accelerator, and then suddenly the acceleration comes on far stronger than you intended. With the direct setting the delay disappears, and pedal travel is much more consistent. Perhaps the FWD engine/transmission combo is better tuned to the timed throttle setting.

 

[Cumberland Racer]

Never going back Direct throttle and dynamic steering have worked wonders for our DSG Taos and our VR6 AWD Atlas. I think the factory settings were an effort to Americanize these SUVs. We like the ROW firmware much better!

 

[Jaybe]

I did the change a few days ago and I didn’t notice any difference at all on my SL (FWD). I did play with a few other settings on the Carista app and some of them didn’t work, at least I was able to disable the auto start/stop that was so annoying. Also the auto lock doors with the key fob out and some other little things. If there’s a special procedure to make the throttle response change work please let me know, that’s the only thing I don’t like about this car. Thanks.

 

[tbean]

disable the auto start/stop that was so annoying

Can you share which Carista selection was this?

For FWD, I have read that it's "better" than AWD so wondering if the throttle response mattered in this case... But what do I know.

That said, I started reading elsewhere people saying "throttle response programmer" things (costs about $300) so that might be the last option for us to try...

 

[Cumberland Racer]

I think Jake’s right. The direct throttle setting instantly improved our SE AWD DSG. Mostly I think because the time delay factory throttle setting “confuses” the DSG. On the direct threshold throttle setting, it feels like the DSG’s mechatronic controller gets input that is not buffered by the fly-by-wire time delay and that lets it take better advantage of its twin shaft pre-selecting technology. Much sportier AND smoother, but I can completely see how the setting change might not have the same outcome with the FWD 8 speed hydraulic Aisin box,

 

[Cumberland Racer]

I switched the digital dash to the big tach and went back and forth between the two throttle settings, driving with each for whole day, for an entire week. The tach confirmed the intuitive perceptions, the DSG was moving more decisively up and down through the gears on Direct Throttle.

 

[SloFive0]

I switched the digital dash to the big tach and went back and forth between the two throttle settings, driving with each for whole day, for an entire week. The tach confirmed the intuitive perceptions, the DSG was moving more decisively up and down through the gears on Direct Throttle.

Can't wait to get mine and try it out.